I'm hard at work pulling together stats on players in the Fulltilt Blogger TOC. Much props to Al and fulltilt hooking up up yet again with chances at WSOP seats.
Some interesting trends are coming to light as I go through peoples numbers, and adjustments to my game are definitely going to be made. I should have done this long ago for mookie stats and maybe I could have taken one down by now.
I'll be posting the first round of player stats (maybe 20 players or so) and my thoughts on their chances to win one of the WSOP seats tomorrow. Stats I will report on include - VPIP, LP VPIP, PF Cold Call, PF Raise, PF Re-Raise, LP Raise, Blind Steal Attempts, BB and SB fold % to Button Steals, and All-In PF %. These stats are for Full Ring Tournament Play only.
I'll be keeping post flop stats on people to myself.
One interesting thing I noticed is that most people fold their BB to a steal attempt much more often than folding their SB to a steal attempt. The only exceptions to this I have found so far are myself, BuddyDank, and Columbo. I find it strange to fold BB more often here then the SB, when in the SB there is still a player to act behind. Why defend SB more often than BB? Anyone have any ideas on this?
Comments (3)
Precisely because there's someone acting behind. Assuming it's just a call from the SB, then chances are you're figuring you've given the BB the odds to call. People are hoping to catch and have a couple people who they can string along.
Or they don't realize it was a raise and figure they're getting 5:1 to call a limp.
Posted by Astin | June 2, 2009 11:41 AM
Posted on June 2, 2009 11:41
Can't wait for you to rip me apart at the seams.......odds are like 275-1 that I win anything in this thing.
And good luck to you on Sunday bub! I'll be the one that jams the hammer into your kings in the bb like in Vegas..... ;)
As for SB defense, the only thing I can think is that people are actually thinking the BB will call, and that will give them better odds?
Example, holding 56 spades from the sb. Someone raises, the sb calls thinking the BB will also call based on odds and therefore makes it worth it to see the flop with 56s?
But instead you have 56s in the bb. Do you call and go heads up against a raiser with position in that case? Um, not likely against anyone average.
That's a particular example, but the first thing that popped into my head.
Posted by jjok | June 2, 2009 11:58 AM
Posted on June 2, 2009 11:58
Guys - What you're saying maybe true, but I still think its a bad move. From the SB if the button raises to 3xBB you have to call 2.5BB into a pot of 4.5BB, and "hope" that the BB comes along and calls 2BB into 7BB, to end up giving you you're 2.5BB into 6.5BB.
Thats still less than 3-1 and you're in first position post-flop. Plus, my stats show that most fold BB to a raise more often than folding SB to a raise, so most of the time, your going to be call 2.5BB into a pot of 4.5BB, out of position. Unless the Button raiser is Hoy, who steals just about every chance he gets, you should fold most of the time. In fact, if it is Hoy, you should be re-raising, not folding or calling.
Posted by VinNay | June 2, 2009 12:17 PM
Posted on June 2, 2009 12:17